tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post7372935147349700257..comments2023-10-18T09:38:27.290-05:00Comments on Time 2 Change Churches!: The Church You've Always Longed Forpastorbrianculverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07325788116682801754noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-58701426849915945732008-02-21T04:07:00.000-06:002008-02-21T04:07:00.000-06:00you could always use them with your furniture. You...you could always use them with your furniture. You never know, you might have one leg shorter than another on a table and you can use it to level the table up!pastorbrianculverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325788116682801754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-89183806698893126582008-02-20T20:47:00.000-06:002008-02-20T20:47:00.000-06:00Haha... good point, Brian. I need to get rid of th...Haha... good point, Brian. I need to get rid of them, but hey, if it can help you bring out the deception of the PDL, then I will gladly keep them!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00144910846284431972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-58878323271724185112008-02-20T09:33:00.000-06:002008-02-20T09:33:00.000-06:00I spent 6 hours studying it!!! just kidding, not ...I spent 6 hours studying it!!! just kidding, not a problem at all!pastorbrianculverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325788116682801754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-67808660610497828272008-02-20T09:31:00.000-06:002008-02-20T09:31:00.000-06:00Sorry, Brian. I don't know what hfwl means either....Sorry, Brian. I don't know what hfwl means either. A word processing issue, I suspect. I hope you didn't spend too long on it!<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I have not read the book, so was just commenting on what you had posted.Doorman-Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06407399232593479871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-40607983393362211772008-02-20T04:11:00.000-06:002008-02-20T04:11:00.000-06:00Jessie, didn't I see somewhere that you had gotten...Jessie, didn't I see somewhere that you had gotten rid of anything that was an idol in your house?? hmmm?? ;o)pastorbrianculverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325788116682801754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-40324740343901380432008-02-19T23:27:00.000-06:002008-02-19T23:27:00.000-06:00Haha... I have about 3 I could give you... not sur...Haha... I have about 3 I could give you... not sure why I have that many, but I just haven't discarded them since I moved out of my parent's house last April.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00144910846284431972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-13709764469557497502008-02-19T19:01:00.000-06:002008-02-19T19:01:00.000-06:00not a bad idea, unfortunately, I threw my PDL book...not a bad idea, unfortunately, I threw my PDL book away!! I'll have to do a search on the Internet!pastorbrianculverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325788116682801754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-44797402085684602052008-02-19T18:59:00.000-06:002008-02-19T18:59:00.000-06:00OOOO! Can you do this on the Purpose Driven Life.....OOOO! Can you do this on the Purpose Driven Life...? Oh, how I was misled by the teachings of Mr. Warren.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00144910846284431972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-80513424560087313312008-02-19T15:42:00.000-06:002008-02-19T15:42:00.000-06:00Wow, that was a long response to a simple statemen...Wow, that was a long response to a simple statement! sorry about that!pastorbrianculverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325788116682801754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-14225832578098205732008-02-19T15:41:00.000-06:002008-02-19T15:41:00.000-06:00DP,it took me quite a while to figure out what you...DP,<BR/>it took me quite a while to figure out what you were saying in this comment. that "hfwl" confused me. Is it possible that it should have been "hfw" and "I" starts the actual sentence?<BR/><BR/>what does hfw stand for?<BR/><BR/>Upfront, I could agree with you, but as you look deeper into the book (which I did not post everything from the book) there are many troubling things in there.<BR/><BR/>1. I agree the church should learn to listen to the needs of others.<BR/>2. Just telling people about how good your church is will not revitalize an individual or a church. (they fail on this one)<BR/>3. Welcomes all people. Again, I agree. We do not judge people because we are sinners too in need of a Savior. (but in reading the book, the reason for welcoming people outside of your circle is to have them come to church. A revitalized church is not one filled with unbelievers, it is one filled with believers who are obedient to God's Word and are out reaching the lost!)<BR/>4. Empowers each individual (here, I thought they would talk about the body of believers being edified by God's Word. Nope! it has to do with telling people they have a gift of being an electrician or a gift of being a good guitar player. No mention of growing in God's Word for being empowered!)<BR/>5. getting rid of garbage. They say you only need to do this once. I think we should examine ourselves daily to see that we are in the faith. We should repent of all of our sins. There is no mention of what happens if a person does not repent of their sins. (they fail on this one big time!)<BR/>6. Serves a broken world. I agree, we are to be in the world helping those people who are hurting, hurricane victims, flood victims, casualties of war, etc. We should be feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless. The book says nothing about how to serve a broken world!<BR/>7. encounters a living God. Their idea in the book of encountering a living God is by telling people about your church. They think people will encounter the living God that way. Maybe they will. But why wait? Why not help them encounter a living God right now? Tell them the gospel message today. They might die before they come to church!<BR/>8. anticipate a great future. Again, this book lacks details on this other than to think your church will grow and prosper by inviting people to come to church. No where in the Bible are we told to bring people to church, we are to preach the gospel to every creature in all the world! It is more important to reach people where they are rather than have them come to a church building. There is enough false teaching in many churches that just having them come will not change anything.<BR/><BR/>There are things in the book that at first glance look okay. But as you get into the book you see that the direction they are taking is wrong. It lacks substance which is so typical of the modern church today.<BR/><BR/>If all churches would do the things I posted, it will be revitalized!<BR/>Read the Bible daily<BR/>Obey what you read.<BR/>Believe in Jesus (trust in Him)<BR/>Repent of your sins<BR/>Reach the lostpastorbrianculverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325788116682801754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6591518369598505341.post-29145176195443364712008-02-19T09:06:00.000-06:002008-02-19T09:06:00.000-06:00hfwI liked the original list - apart from no. 2. Y...hfwI liked the original list - apart from no. 2. Your list would be the alternative to the bit about telling people something nice about your church.<BR/><BR/>With that change I think the original list stands, but not, obviously the tasks, which are wooly.Doorman-Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06407399232593479871noreply@blogger.com